Thus far, the "Misdirection" that our good friend Siddhartha has taken is the "misdirection" of living in 'worldly" pleasures. Many people consider living in indulgences a "misguided" approach to life. However, whether or not this is true, it is Siddhartha's mistakes that will teach him.
The Wisdom if Indirection simply means the experience(s) of going no where or having been everywhere and experienced everything but indirection. So in terms of Siddhartha he experienced every thing form spiritual teachings to worldly concerns or Samsara. So the most logical thing left for him to achieve is the process of going nowhere and experiencing everything at once.
As we have read in Siddhartha I have noticed that it is the goals that distracted him from his enlightenment. Even as he became enlightened it was described in terms of the river's goals. To reach Nirvana-as it is termed -one must abstain from all goals and listen to the world as it is not as you think it should be.
Further more it is our experiences that take us to this enlightened state it can not be expressed from a teacher,expressed through words, expressed through someone else' experiences. So the Wisdom of Indirection is really the art of living-not for the future of the past but just experiencing life and in harmony with everything.
As Siddhartha said 'there is not Samsara or Nirvana' there is just the truth and the balance of everything.
Wisdom is experience that is encountered only by your worng doings or daily living even....Siddhartha search for enlightment or "Nirvana" was his indirection, he was blinded by knowlegde he thought he could learn some how but then realized it's not tought by anyone or anything only by experience. In his case, young Siddhartha wanting to be away and live where he was raised at, that was the same thing he put his father through ,when he wanted to live with the Samanas.
The wisdom of indirection, I found is experiencing everything which was necessarily pert of "you path." Siddartha was the son of a Brahmin and was expected to become one as well. Siddartha, however, did the complete opposite. He went every which way that wasn't expected of him.
I agree with Vida. Siddartha experienced every branch that he could attain in his life and only through that did he truly experience his "enlightenment." Whereas, Govinda had a sense of direction and a doctorine [Gotama's] that he followed, however, his direction did not attain him peace!
Like previously stated before by all those above me; the Wisdom of Indirection is the knowledge achieved through the experiences Siddhartha embarks on. For example, Siddhartha had never experienced the sensation of having to let a loved one go, something his father experienced, until was put in the position of letting his son go. Siddhartha never really knew why his father was as hesitant to let him leave his town to venture out in the world to find himself, however, Siddhartha now knows that Love is what held his father back, and though Siddhartha's son left by force, Siddhartha's hesitation was also because of the strong love he had for his son. Siddhartha must experience lessons on his own to fully grasp their essence. Like Andrew stated, they cannot be taught through word of mouth or books, one must take initiative and venture out on his own. If I remember correctly, during Block 1 Ms. Hill allowed Alice to borrow her Women's Rights book, in which included a quote about how teachers, friends, family, pastors, essentially everyone can mislead you in your education because they have a great amount of influence, and so this coincides with Siddhartha because he vanquished himself of all these teachers or entities that would have an influence in how he would reach Enlightenment and instead found Enlightenment through his own way.
Alice or Ms. Hill if you can please let me know what the exact name of the book is, it would give good insight, thank you.
Misdirection is a way for people to see the world or the life that is not seen through the eyes of a person who has a set goal in mind or a person indulges them selves with things to do. These people might think that their life is perfect but they're not happy because they haven't seen outside of their world. Therefore, wisdom comes from indirection because as a person gets of track on their journey they see thing and understand that they really don't know what life truly is. Meaning that the person doesn't know everything and gains wisdom be not always being on the same path because their mind is opened to the world.
Thus far, the "Misdirection" that our good friend Siddhartha has taken is the "misdirection" of living in 'worldly" pleasures. Many people consider living in indulgences a "misguided" approach to life. However, whether or not this is true, it is Siddhartha's mistakes that will teach him.
ReplyDeleteThe Wisdom if Indirection simply means the experience(s) of going no where or having been everywhere and experienced everything but indirection. So in terms of Siddhartha he experienced every thing form spiritual teachings to worldly concerns or Samsara. So the most logical thing left for him to achieve is the process of going nowhere and experiencing everything at once.
ReplyDeleteAs we have read in Siddhartha I have noticed that it is the goals that distracted him from his enlightenment. Even as he became enlightened it was described in terms of the river's goals. To reach Nirvana-as it is termed -one must abstain from all goals and listen to the world as it is not as you think it should be.
Further more it is our experiences that take us to this enlightened state it can not be expressed from a teacher,expressed through words, expressed through someone else' experiences. So the Wisdom of Indirection is really the art of living-not for the future of the past but just experiencing life and in harmony with everything.
As Siddhartha said 'there is not Samsara or Nirvana' there is just the truth and the balance of everything.
Wisdom is experience that is encountered only by your worng doings or daily living even....Siddhartha search for enlightment or "Nirvana" was his indirection, he was blinded by knowlegde he thought he could learn some how but then realized it's not tought by anyone or anything only by experience. In his case, young Siddhartha wanting to be away and live where he was raised at, that was the same thing he put his father through ,when he wanted to live with the Samanas.
ReplyDeleteThe wisdom of indirection, I found is experiencing everything which was necessarily pert of "you path." Siddartha was the son of a Brahmin and was expected to become one as well. Siddartha, however, did the complete opposite. He went every which way that wasn't expected of him.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Vida. Siddartha experienced every branch that he could attain in his life and only through that did he truly experience his "enlightenment." Whereas, Govinda had a sense of direction and a doctorine [Gotama's] that he followed, however, his direction did not attain him peace!
ReplyDeleteLike previously stated before by all those above me; the Wisdom of Indirection is the knowledge achieved through the experiences Siddhartha embarks on.
ReplyDeleteFor example, Siddhartha had never experienced the sensation of having to let a loved one go, something his father experienced, until was put in the position of letting his son go. Siddhartha never really knew why his father was as hesitant to let him leave his town to venture out in the world to find himself, however, Siddhartha now knows that Love is what held his father back, and though Siddhartha's son left by force, Siddhartha's hesitation was also because of the strong love he had for his son.
Siddhartha must experience lessons on his own to fully grasp their essence. Like Andrew stated, they cannot be taught through word of mouth or books, one must take initiative and venture out on his own. If I remember correctly, during Block 1 Ms. Hill allowed Alice to borrow her Women's Rights book, in which included a quote about how teachers, friends, family, pastors, essentially everyone can mislead you in your education because they have a great amount of influence, and so this coincides with Siddhartha because he vanquished himself of all these teachers or entities that would have an influence in how he would reach Enlightenment and instead found Enlightenment through his own way.
Alice or Ms. Hill if you can please let me know what the exact name of the book is, it would give good insight, thank you.
-Esteban
Andrew,
ReplyDeleteAre you saying, then, that a person should not set goals? Please clarify.
Esteban,
ReplyDeleteThe name of the text is: Women Imagine Change. One of my professors at ASU contributed in the writing of it.
I am saying that goals can be distracting and one should not become obssesed with that goal to the exclusion of all else.
ReplyDeleteGoals are needed for life but most peoople are so focused on that specific goal that they can miss so many lessons that life can teach us
Misdirection is a way for people to see the world or the life that is not seen through the eyes of a person who has a set goal in mind or a person indulges them selves with things to do. These people might think that their life is perfect but they're not happy because they haven't seen outside of their world. Therefore, wisdom comes from indirection because as a person gets of track on their journey they see thing and understand that they really don't know what life truly is. Meaning that the person doesn't know everything and gains wisdom be not always being on the same path because their mind is opened to the world.
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